Comments on: Toyota pulls out of Formula One

By: F1Wolf

F1Wolf — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:11:57 +0000

If that were true, then the four new teams would have a huge advantage.

well, it will probably take time for them to get the chassis competitive + it will also be hard for them to keep up with the best in terms of development. have to remember that their F1 plans were based on the spending within the proposed budget cap that does not apply ...

the other point to remember is that Cosworth has less than a year to get the engine that has done no racing and development since the end of 2006 season on par with Ferrari and McLaren and Renault (if they stay) power - in terms of horse power as well as in terms of fuel efficiency (very important with no refueling next year).

The one team that might benefit is Williams ...

By: zblkhwk

zblkhwk — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:59:08 +0000

If that were true, then the four new teams would have a huge advantage. Even though there is a “freeze” on development, you know McLaren and Ferrari were designing the 2010 engine off learnings from the 2009 engine. It also appears that both teams got significantly faster throughout the season (at least until Ferrari quit on 2009 to focus on 2010), part of which had to come from engine improvements. In other words, they all push the limits of the rules.

By: F1Wolf

F1Wolf — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:59:18 +0000

Is there an opportunity for someone to buy this team and still be on the grid for 2010? Toyota was much more competitive this year, so they certainly have a lot for a new owner.

That may not be that easy, from what I hear their F1 factory in Cologne is part of bigger Toyota facility, quite difficult to pass it on to someone else. Not same as Honda case ....

Add Cosworth (although how competitve can they be with their first season back after a long departure)

The advantage Cosworth has that as a "new" engine supplier they are allowed to work on their engine till March to bring it up to current standards, unlike the other three (or two if Renault quits the game) that are under the engine freeze regulations.

By: zblkhwk

zblkhwk — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:43:34 +0000

This is not surprising but certainly disappointing. Is there an opportunity for someone to buy this team and still be on the grid for 2010? Toyota was much more competitive this year, so they certainly have a lot for a new owner.

Another note is the loss of yet another Engine Manufacturer (along with BMW for 2010 and Honda for 2009). Add Cosworth (although how competitve can they be with their first season back after a long departure) and that leaves four if my math is right (with Ferrari, Mercedes, and Renault if they stick around). We are getting close to a spec engine series.

By: F1Wolf

F1Wolf — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:30:44 +0000

but what about the concorde agreement they have signed. didn’t it include a commitment until 2012?

it did, but obviously the contracts are only there to be broken … and now there is also Renault considering seriously their F1 future – http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8343221.stm

By: psychy

psychy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:01:02 +0000

what a shame. first they weren’t really nice to the drivers (Trulli and Glock) and now that.
but what about the concorde agreement they have signed. didn’t it include a commitment until 2012?
Anyway I hope to see Trulli and Glock in 2010.

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