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		<title>By: F1Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/01/official-but-still-incomplete-2009-f1-entry-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-16689</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think BMW Sauber same as most other teams chose to give lower car number to driver who finished higher in 2008 F1 Drivers&#039; Championship. I do not think the lower number automatically means number one status. 

Ferrari gave lower number to Raikkonen although he finished behind Massa in last year championship, perhaps because Raikkonen has already won one title. Or maybe the reason is that Kimi gets paid much more than Massa :-)

Red Bull are another case - Vettel finished ahead of Webber last year, but perhaps because Vettel is new in Red Bull Racing the lower number went to Webber. It also does not mean Webber will be Red Bull&#039;s number 1 and Vettel number 2 next year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think BMW Sauber same as most other teams chose to give lower car number to driver who finished higher in 2008 F1 Drivers&#8217; Championship. I do not think the lower number automatically means number one status. </p>
<p>Ferrari gave lower number to Raikkonen although he finished behind Massa in last year championship, perhaps because Raikkonen has already won one title. Or maybe the reason is that Kimi gets paid much more than Massa <img src='http://www.f1wolf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Red Bull are another case &#8211; Vettel finished ahead of Webber last year, but perhaps because Vettel is new in Red Bull Racing the lower number went to Webber. It also does not mean Webber will be Red Bull&#8217;s number 1 and Vettel number 2 next year</p>
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		<title>By: epi</title>
		<link>http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/01/official-but-still-incomplete-2009-f1-entry-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-16688</link>
		<dc:creator>epi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kubica is now the number one BMW driver this year, has this been expected to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kubica is now the number one BMW driver this year, has this been expected to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Kotenok</title>
		<link>http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/01/official-but-still-incomplete-2009-f1-entry-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-16685</link>
		<dc:creator>Kotenok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting! Long ago I used to visit the AtlasF1 site, but last times I forgot that it exists!! I&#039;ll keep an eye, they write interesting features :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! Long ago I used to visit the AtlasF1 site, but last times I forgot that it exists!! I&#8217;ll keep an eye, they write interesting features <img src='http://www.f1wolf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kotenok</title>
		<link>http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/01/official-but-still-incomplete-2009-f1-entry-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-16684</link>
		<dc:creator>Kotenok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huumm... Raikkonen above Massa? That is just a mistake or answers the wish of Ferrari for keeping Kimi as the 1st driver of the team. Back to the rules, there has to be first and second driver, no matter if the teams decide equality between both drivers. So the chassis number and the T-cam colour differs first and second drivers (bright band with yellow or orange). Obviously their helmets help much more to recognize a driver in a car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huumm&#8230; Raikkonen above Massa? That is just a mistake or answers the wish of Ferrari for keeping Kimi as the 1st driver of the team. Back to the rules, there has to be first and second driver, no matter if the teams decide equality between both drivers. So the chassis number and the T-cam colour differs first and second drivers (bright band with yellow or orange). Obviously their helmets help much more to recognize a driver in a car.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/01/official-but-still-incomplete-2009-f1-entry-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-16683</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AtlasF1 says this:

&quot;The number 13 hasn&#039;t been used in a Grand Prix since the numbering system for cars was first formalised in the mid 70&#039;s. Most of Formula One teams are based in Britain, and racers are a superstitious bunch. So 13 has been skipped. Occasionally #14 has been skipped as well so teams can have the odd-even combination. Mostly though it&#039;s superstition, and over a period of at least 30 years that superstitious belief has become habit.&quot;

However there were cases of number 13 in F1:

1963 - Mexican GP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Mexican_Grand_Prix

1976 - British GP - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_British_Grand_Prix</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AtlasF1 says this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The number 13 hasn&#8217;t been used in a Grand Prix since the numbering system for cars was first formalised in the mid 70&#8217;s. Most of Formula One teams are based in Britain, and racers are a superstitious bunch. So 13 has been skipped. Occasionally #14 has been skipped as well so teams can have the odd-even combination. Mostly though it&#8217;s superstition, and over a period of at least 30 years that superstitious belief has become habit.&#8221;</p>
<p>However there were cases of number 13 in F1:</p>
<p>1963 &#8211; Mexican GP &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Mexican_Grand_Prix" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Mexican_Grand_Prix</a></p>
<p>1976 &#8211; British GP &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_British_Grand_Prix" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_British_Grand_Prix</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kotenok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kotenok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chassis number 13 inscribed in F1 dated since 1950 were driven by Moises Solana in 1963 and Divina Galica in 1976, one of the few woman which took part in the F1 races history. Nothing tragically or impressive happened to these drivers, the first took part in a single race and finished that year in 11th position in the drivers table, and the second even manage to qualify into the grid of her first and last race.

I’m not that big guru of F1, I just got informed: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cronicas-formula1.com%2F2008%2F01%2Fsupersticiones-el-piloto-n-13-en-frmula.html&amp;sl=es&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=es&amp;ie=UTF-8

Some seasons the jumps between driver’s numbers were bigger, like in ’89 when there weren’t number  13 (usual) and 14 (?). Or in 1980, when Williams F1 were gifted with the very last numbers 43, 50 and 51 (???), actually that season 3 drivers shared the same number in different parts of the year, the 43(!!!).
What I do not like much is that in a main driver relay by a test-diver or a driver replacement, the coming driver use the same number, which isn’t faithful to his quality ranking. For example look back 2006, Pedro De la Rosa was driver 4 after Montoya left the team.

The thing is... Driver lists never have been too much accurate, and the means of placing them in a ranking based on the previous season aren’t just real if considering guys which have been champions and years after the last monkey in the grid (an example could be Jacques Villeneuve). 
This number list just helps to create a control system based on their numbers for stewards, timekeepers, marshals, and of course broadcast TV. This is much easier than following the names written on the bodywork.

I think keeping the number 13 away from the list is a stupid joke, but if the FIA and the contesting teams want it so... Then who will change that superstition myth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chassis number 13 inscribed in F1 dated since 1950 were driven by Moises Solana in 1963 and Divina Galica in 1976, one of the few woman which took part in the F1 races history. Nothing tragically or impressive happened to these drivers, the first took part in a single race and finished that year in 11th position in the drivers table, and the second even manage to qualify into the grid of her first and last race.</p>
<p>I’m not that big guru of F1, I just got informed: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cronicas-formula1.com%2F2008%2F01%2Fsupersticiones-el-piloto-n-13-en-frmula.html&amp;sl=es&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=es&amp;ie=UTF-8" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cronicas-formula1.com%2F2008%2F01%2Fsupersticiones-el-piloto-n-13-en-frmula.html&amp;sl=es&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=es&amp;ie=UTF-8</a></p>
<p>Some seasons the jumps between driver’s numbers were bigger, like in ’89 when there weren’t number  13 (usual) and 14 (?). Or in 1980, when Williams F1 were gifted with the very last numbers 43, 50 and 51 (???), actually that season 3 drivers shared the same number in different parts of the year, the 43(!!!).<br />
What I do not like much is that in a main driver relay by a test-diver or a driver replacement, the coming driver use the same number, which isn’t faithful to his quality ranking. For example look back 2006, Pedro De la Rosa was driver 4 after Montoya left the team.</p>
<p>The thing is&#8230; Driver lists never have been too much accurate, and the means of placing them in a ranking based on the previous season aren’t just real if considering guys which have been champions and years after the last monkey in the grid (an example could be Jacques Villeneuve).<br />
This number list just helps to create a control system based on their numbers for stewards, timekeepers, marshals, and of course broadcast TV. This is much easier than following the names written on the bodywork.</p>
<p>I think keeping the number 13 away from the list is a stupid joke, but if the FIA and the contesting teams want it so&#8230; Then who will change that superstition myth?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone ever drive no 13? and if so did they get injured?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone ever drive no 13? and if so did they get injured?</p>
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