Comments on: A Bernie post, on Canada and on those medals one more time

By: November day in Formula 1 - Medals, Bulls, technology, banks and drivers | F1 Wolf

Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:37:24 +0000

[...] the same Ecclestone said it again and loud, the medal system is going to happen next year. The whole reason for this is that Bernie is “fed up with [...]

By: F1Wolf

F1Wolf — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:39:15 +0000

we all have our opinions I do not think the system is that bad, I think it suffers a bit from that silly “medal tag”

it of course has its disadvantages – bigger need for team orderes, accidents, less motivation for those from 4th place down etc

By: Bruno

Bruno — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:01:38 +0000

As you can read from my post I think this system is total nonsense, resulting in more accidents probably.
Please read more here if you can

http://f1-in-singapore.blogspot.com/2008/11/is-ecclestone-medal-system-workable.html

Top 3 Good for them but whatabout the rest ??? Still can’t believe this comes from former F1 manager…

Brunos last blog post..Red Bull take over Toro Rosso F1 team

By: Kotenok

Kotenok — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:27:20 +0000

Yes, I do understand that the top of an F1 driver career is to win races. Beautiful itself when a driver scored the golden medal and owns the biggest number of them, and that gives him the World Title. But there’s a lot in that game which I don’t like simply, I commented that being regular is very important to win a championship. But I’m sure I defend a lost cause, when Mr. Ecclestone has one idea between his lashes he usually doesn’t let it escape. Also he has few times mistaken, but he always managed to take profit from the situation.

I’m sure Massa was the proper driver to get the World Title this season when he won more races than all his rivals, but Hamilton’s fans would cut my head off if I didn’t accept that the ones from McLaren did a better car which didn’t break that much as the Ferrari ones. So still Lewis Hamilton deserves that championship not for the great results seen, just because he was holding on top until the end with consistent races.

By: F1Wolf

F1Wolf — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:05:56 +0000

getting rid of those good old and POPULAR Grands Prix is something that will one day come back to haunt Mr Ecclestone

but with some tweaking that medal thing may not be that wrong. in any case, the drivers are already catgorizied, tere are winners, there are the ppdium scorers tere are those in points here and then and theb there is the rest …

this is how the 2008 final standings would look under medal system:

what would be the order in 2008 with the medal sysyem in place ?

1. Massa
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Alonso
5. Kubica
6. Kovalainen
7. Vettel

In the case of the top 2 who knows what would have happened if they had to go for win race in race out instead of preserving the points lead. at the same time I believe that Ferrari would throw their support behind Massa few races earlier.

the only one eliminated from top 7 would be Heidfeld as he won zero races.

By: Kotenok

Kotenok — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:31:20 +0000

I do not understand both of his purposes, to delete classical GP's for new events in other places to get the F1 more popular (where else???) and the pursiut of making F1 drivers categories or classification (as they would be placed in 4 shelfs, those who won, those who were second, and third, and those who are losers). My credit to that revolutionary ideas is low still. Kotenoks last blog post..RubberGoat

By: F1Wolf

F1Wolf — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:17:51 +0000

the constructors championship would not be affected. the driveres would still collect point from 1-8 but those would only count towards constructors table, the “medals” would decide the drivers title

By: zblkhwk

zblkhwk — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:12:58 +0000

I can’t believe changing to medals, limit awards to the top three is good for the sport. How can you leave the bottom tier teams completely out of scoring? These teams struggle enough to generate both advertising and fan support, eliminating their chance of scoring surely has to hurt, and perhaps chase teams from F1.

It appears that the world is starting to push back on Bernie and his huge $$$$ demands to bring his F1 product to your city. Perhaps Tony George was ahead of his time in telling Bernie that F1 was not worth the big $$$$. Canada and now China appear to be following suit. Perhaps now the teams and their sponsors will have some pull in placing races in key markets.

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